Curse

Bobby2 · Jan 15, 2008, 08:21 AM // 08:21

A/W for fun in AB.

CS: 8+1 (leftovers)
DM: 12+1+1
Tactics: 10

Shove {E}
Falling Spider
Horns of the Ox
Falling Lotus Strike
Twisting Fangs
Grapple
Shadow Walk
Dash

Lurve that KDage. Combo's pretty obvious. Cuteness: canceling Shadow Walk with Grapple - KDing while porting back to safety (albeit on ur a**

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moriz · Jan 15, 2008, 06:57 PM // 18:57

you've stole my shove assassin! BLASPHEMY!!!!

anyways, here's mine:

CS: 9+1
DM: 12+2
tactics: 9

shove {E}
falling lotus
hoto
falling spider
twisting fangs
shadow walk
dash
healing signet

Bobby2 · Jan 15, 2008, 09:50 PM // 21:50

Heh heh. Grapple < HealSig, no doubt, but Grapple is way more fun.

Tried it yet?

KikiRae · Jan 16, 2008, 12:45 AM // 00:45

By the way you spelled "The" wrong in your topic.

And grapple IS fun.. =]

But staying alive is even more fun.

DDL · Jan 16, 2008, 12:15 PM // 12:15

"Teh" is a well known ironic typo, kikirae.

itsvictor · Jan 22, 2008, 11:38 PM // 23:38

I used that for a while, hoto is unreliable in a lot of situations...

Tyla · Jan 22, 2008, 11:49 PM // 23:49

This looks fun!
/gogo gw try this build and /laugh

moriz · Jan 23, 2008, 04:17 PM // 16:17

a little bit of history:

the original shove assassin showed up just prior to NF release. we didn't have falling lotus strike back then, and the build instead used golden phoenix strike as the second offhand, and triggered off either way of the fox or shadow refuge. it was actually the first "instagib" assassin build ever existed. however, it never went beyond random arenas because it was very one dimensional. in the right hands, it was pretty deadly.

now with the decline of SP sins, i believe this build is now the "best" assassin build available. it does almost as much damage as an SP sin, but have more utility and self healing. not to mention, this build allows you to run HP armor instead of energy, and the 9 in tactics allows you to use a shield to it's full armor.

in conclusion: i nominate this build as the "best" assassin build current available, and suggest all other builds be measured from this one.

Draco Angelus · Jan 23, 2008, 04:48 PM // 16:48

Now I can't be sure of this of course, but i kinda doubt it was the very first instagib sin. as I'm quite sure there would have been someone bold enough to have used a 5-chain to spike.

although it may have been the first "Official" instagib build available.

Pyro maniac · Jan 23, 2008, 06:55 PM // 18:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by Draco Angelus

Now I can't be sure of this of course, but i kinda doubt it was the very first instagib sin. as I'm quite sure there would have been someone bold enough to have used a 5-chain to spike.

although it may have been the first "Official" instagib build available.

before that there were AoD shock sins and YAA sins.
Still good, but not 'instagib'

Sir Pandra Pierva · Jan 23, 2008, 08:05 PM // 20:05

lol KD sins are fun to play

I do an A/MO

12+1+1 deadly arts
12 smiting
1 healing

[skill]Signet of Judgment[/skill][skill]Augury of Death[/skill]or[skill]Enduring Toxin[/skill]or[skill]Scorpion Wire[/skill][skill]Iron Palm[/skill][skill]Holy Strike[/skill][skill]Entangling Asp[/skill][skill]Stonesoul Strike[/skill][skill]Restful Breeze[/skill] Rez or in AB [skill]Dash[/skill]

This is my KD piss people off build it works amazingly well in lower areas and is very good at pissing off monks.

Basicly just go from left to right or try to interupt, though its a little harder with the kds to do it, just keep them knocked down and follow up Iron Palm with holy strike and asp with soulstone. it makes short work of most people if you use the enduring build it puts out 9 degen as well.

Its funny this build is a pile of shitty skills put together that works in really low end PvP AB and RA but its always great for pissing people off.

I tried this build after jokingly posting something close to in an other topic about using the 2 touch smiting skills. I tried it out for kicks and to see what would actually happen. Many pissed off people later I think the build works pretty well. Doesn't do shit for dmg but all that KD is bound to annoy someone and if your group is not full of idiots you can lockdown a monk for a brief period of time and do dmg to him allowing your group to kill him or others. No matter how protted he is

kosh · Jan 23, 2008, 08:22 PM // 20:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sir Pandra Pierva

lol KD sins are fun to play

I do an A/MO

12+1+1 deadly arts
12 smiting
1 healing

[skill]Signet of Judgment[/skill][skill]Augury of Death[/skill]or[skill]Enduring Toxin[/skill]or[skill]Scorpion Wire[/skill][skill]Iron Palm[/skill][skill]Holy Strike[/skill][skill]Entangling Asp[/skill][skill]Stonesoul Strike[/skill][skill]Restful Breeze[/skill] Rez or in AB [skill]Dash[/skill]

This is my KD piss people off build it works amazingly well in lower areas and is very good at pissing off monks.

Basicly just go from left to right or try to interupt, though its a little harder with the kds to do it, just keep them knocked down and follow up Iron Palm with holy strike and asp with soulstone. it makes short work of most people if you use the enduring build it puts out 9 degen as well.

Its funny this build is a pile of shitty skills put together that works in really low end PvP AB and RA but its always great for pissing people off.

I tried this build after jokingly posting something close to in an other topic about using the 2 touch smiting skills. I tried it out for kicks and to see what would actually happen. Many pissed off people later I think the build works pretty well. Doesn't do shit for dmg but all that KD is bound to annoy someone and if your group is not full of idiots you can lockdown a monk for a brief period of time and do dmg to him allowing your group to kill him or others. No matter how protted he is

WOW...so u came up with ass casters yourself? just give me your home adrress so i can send flowers to your mom for you being a retard.

Quote:

Originally Posted by moriz

a little bit of history:

the original shove assassin showed up just prior to NF release. we didn't have falling lotus strike back then, and the build instead used golden phoenix strike as the second offhand, and triggered off either way of the fox or shadow refuge. it was actually the first "instagib" assassin build ever existed. however, it never went beyond random arenas because it was very one dimensional. in the right hands, it was pretty deadly.

now with the decline of SP sins, i believe this build is now the "best" assassin build available. it does almost as much damage as an SP sin, but have more utility and self healing. not to mention, this build allows you to run HP armor instead of energy, and the 9 in tactics allows you to use a shield to it's full armor.

in conclusion: i nominate this build as the "best" assassin build current available, and suggest all other builds be measured from this one.

heal sig? it suck on a warrior with much more armor than a sin...

and how do u plan to take advantage of 9 tactics? every time u dash out and swap sets? so beside try to instant kill anyting u useless?

and your being proud of coming up with this build? gg go xoo.

this shove sin build is so RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing stupid as allmost as monk/shove spike.

you guys are retards. for real./

Sir Pandra Pierva · Jan 23, 2008, 08:26 PM // 20:26

kosh you make me laugh

also it is an assa caster I wont deny it.

also lets hear your "pro" sin builds.

kosh · Jan 23, 2008, 08:54 PM // 20:54

[skill]Leaping Mantis Sting[/skill][skill]Wild Strike[/skill][skill]Twisting Fangs[/skill][skill]Moebius Strike[/skill][skill]Trampling Ox[/skill][skill]dash[/skill] [skill]shadow walk[/skill]

rez/heal w/e u want

this is not my sin. just a build i use. but mi not making an ass out of myself saying staff like: i came with ass casters or like moriz saying that xoo came with instantgib sins or even this silly shove sin.

edit: from futer reading sir panda post the more is become clear that u are that kind of player who thinks that "omg i killed u,die sob" thing. how to put it" piss people",

u see, your a scrub. u dont want to get better in the game, u dont think that that build is trash. u think because u can kill ppl it own. its not. its a grief build. just like that you are a greif player. u and other like you are the reason that ppl stop pvping... u make pvp a bad name, u make gw players a bad name.
u fail at the game but insted of getting better, u try to find ways to still suck at the game and win. instead of reading wiki,forums, u come over here, and try to post a ass caster build and being all proud and cocky? what the hell? gtfo.

Tyla · Jan 23, 2008, 09:41 PM // 21:41

Kosh, please stfu as you have nothing constructive to say.

Agreed people saying "I made this build", but if you call instigibs Griefing, blame the designers of 'Sins, INSTIGIB IS PRETTY MUCH THE ONLY SIN BUILD APART FROM MOEBIUS/OTHER CLASS'S WEAPONS.

Shove sin scores kills, correct - 12345678 combo - correct, but then people find it fun.

I like the build because it has 3 extra slots to spare.

BTW - "u" give a bad name to literacy, and your flame is completely stupid.
If your going to be a jerkoff, do it somewhere else.

Not to mention sins are EXTREMELY easy to counter.

Bobby2 · Jan 23, 2008, 10:22 PM // 22:22

Agreed. The lack of Expose is something I find hard to come to grips with. Also, considering sins get to use Iron Palm, Shove has a hard time being worth it IMO.

@ kosh: don't forget your meds next time.

FlamingMetroid · Jan 23, 2008, 10:55 PM // 22:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by kosh

lots o' bs

calm down geeze >_>
insta killing is what assassins are meant to do, if not then why are they called "assassins"?
I think "u make gw players a bad name"

kosh · Jan 24, 2008, 01:01 AM // 01:01

lol. just lol.

so funny that all this a/x come and jump to protract their sins from being shard to pieces. start looking at threads about this game and what was b4 Nf. yeah becasue how many ppl did sins b4 all this alter buuf and nf skills? dont make me laugh.

hey my name is ass caster, because of me (lets just say 50% of the people) stay down on the ground before they even get to cast a single spell.

yay good old blance pvp game. oh RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing joy.

sins were broken to being with. ass casters and instantgib just made them worse. the entire mechanics for the sin Profession is just plain out made stupid.

any mechanic that bypass all the laws of a given closed system (which can be changed) should be changed and dealt with. but a.net chose to look the other way as they always do.

i stand by my statement.

Tyla · Jan 24, 2008, 01:09 AM // 01:09

Kosh, you really aren't being very constructive...
In my opinion you're just flaming because you hate the class.
Either because you suck too much to stop spikes or you get killed by them for not bringing defense...

Sin's WERE broken to begin with, and since the instigib idea was complete junk sins turned out like this - i still think they are quite fun to play but in low-level pvp.

Seriously though, Kosh, if you're opinions are so strong why don't you just make a thread about it instead of sending this one to hell?

ensoriki · Jan 24, 2008, 01:11 AM // 01:11

Sin's were broken to begin with?

What was broken before Nightfall?

All I can come up with right now is SOH